Curse

Yellowrose · Aug 25, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

I guess I have a little rant to get off my chest here.

To give a little background info so you can better understand my rant. I was introduced to GW by my son for the very first GW beta event for Prophecies. After seeing what an awesome job the developers had done on this new game I went and bought my own preorder and have since bought a copy for each of my computer systems and now own 3 full version copies of Prphecies 2 full versions of Factions and 2 full versions of Nightfall plus my Prohecies pre-order and my Eye of the North pre-order. And to top it all off was informed yesterday I only really needed 1 copy but seeing as I have 3 game accounts I have copies for each account to some extent.

I have spent a good amount of my pay cheques on this game because when not fulfilling job obligations, I love to relax and play for a few hours with both of my kids and thier friends. My kids are not really kids but adults(34 & 26) who when it comes to computer gaming, are just like a lot of you, kids who never grew up...lol...and mom is just as bad as they are.

Now for my rant.

I went out on Wednesday and again purchased all 3 campains and the Eye of the North pre-order from my local retailer ($123.00 CDN) looking forward to this weekends beta preview to discover I CAN'T take part.

Why You ask?

Because my characters are NOT at Level 20.

While I have played since the game was first released a few years ago I have a job that has me traveling all over Canada and when working, work 12 hour shifts 7 days a week with no time off until whatever contract I'm on terminates. The only time I can really play is when I'm on offtime at home. So because of this my oldest character is only at level 14 and the newest just leveled at level 5.

I feel if I have a valid pre-order key I have paid for the right to take part in a beta weekend and should not be penialized and disallowed to take part because my characters are not at a certain level.

I feel this is discriminatory to loyal gamers like myself who play as often as they can and who spend a lot of money on these full version campains and pre-orders.

I feel if they can limit what you see by the cd keys attached to your game account then they should be able to allow beta event weekends the same way. Then also allow others to take advantage by character levels. This would make it more fair for those of us who pay for pre-orders and still be fair to other gamers who get the chance to play more often then gamers like myself who's time can be sometimes limited.

End of Rant

For those who read through it all I thank you for taking the time to read my views. Some will agree and others will not but I at least got this off my mind.

Now seeing as I'm a new member to this forum I think it's time I went around and looked at what you guys have got here. From what I've seen so far looks like a rather nice looking site and I look forward to spending some time here and getting some much needed hints and other info I see you have supplied for GW junkies like myself.

Have a great day and thanks again for reading my little rant.

Yellowrose

Arkantos · Aug 25, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

It's an expansion meant for level 20's. You're acting like level 20 is actually hard to get.

Stolen Souls · Aug 25, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Sorry to hear.

However...

Right from the start, it was made pretty clear that the expansion was for level 20 characters.

"Guild Wars: Eye of the North is the first true expansion for the Guild Wars franchise, providing new content geared exclusively for level 20 characters."

http://www.guildwars.com/products/eyeofthenorth/

Exoudeous · Aug 25, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

eye of the north is specificly for max level characters. thats what its specificly designd to be. it even says so in its description, you wont even be able to play it when you have the retail game till you get to 20.

you may have paid for everything, but if you have played so little in 2 years that you are only level 14, why is it such a big deal to you?

TGgold · Aug 25, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

I don't understand you're problem fully.

If your characters are only level 5 and level 14, I'm fairly sure there's a TON of content for you that you need to complete before you begin worrying about an expansion =)

stiffler · Aug 25, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Wow, that would mean you have the oldest level 14 character in the game lol, wouldn't you have been better off finishing atleast one campain before buying a new copy?

natuxatu · Aug 25, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Well I can understand.. even though it's expansion you would think you could take your characters over at any level.. or .. attempt to... I think they should have made it slightly more clear.. but hey you can level up fast in Factions.

Yellowrose · Aug 25, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

It's not that it is all that hard to get but the time needed to get there which is the problem. I have a laptop that travels with me but after a long 12 hour shift and it's usually on midnights with about 1 hour traveling at the begining and at the end makes for a 14 hour day and is tiring enough. I also have my own fansite for another game and need to look after it and the server it's on as well, so GW is basically an at home only relaxation for me and sometimes that at home time isn't often. I can sometimes be away from home for 3 - 6 months at a time. That is why level 20 is to hard for me to obtain.

Arkantos · Aug 25, 2007, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Well then I guess you're out of luck on GWEN. ANet isn't going to change the way they develop games because of people who cannot play all the time. It's an expansion, and expansions aren't meant to have low level content. They have 3 campaigns, go play those.

Yellowrose · Aug 25, 2007, 03:55 AM // 03:55

Well a sneak peak should be available to anyone after all a sneak peak is a look at what is to come and then let people decide if it's something they want. Doesn't matter if it's an added mission or an added expasion if a pre-order is paid for the key for it should be honored regardless of level. And so what if I have all the campains before even 1 is complete I can afford it so get them when they're released and play when I can. That way I have no worries about not having it when one is complete I can immediately move on but was really looking forward to this sneak peak weekend. Oh well such is life I guess.

Arkantos · Aug 25, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

It's a sneak peak for an expansion for level 20 characters.

Either get to level 20 or don't complain, what ANet is doing is fine and they won't change it.

GlassShardx · Aug 25, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

The answer is sorta simple. You can't participate in the preview weekend, because you won't survive long with a level 14 character. GWEN is designed to be an expansion for level 20 characters, so its difficulty is set around that. Imagine the complaints that would pop up if it was open to everyone even the low levels. People would complain its too hard and they can't beat a certain mission, they'd say its unfair and needs to be fixed, but in the end, its not the game that is the problem, or the developers, its sorta just your expectations.

Complaining that you can't join in on content that is built for level 20s, is like having a character run to Lion's Arch at level 1, then complaining that the area is too hard. If you don't have the time to attain a 20, then there will always be content unavailable to you, and I'm sure you must understand that, since you're not complaining about the elite missions such as DoA being unfair to people under level 20.

Omniclasm · Aug 25, 2007, 04:06 AM // 04:06

I'm actually confused why you would buy a new campaign? You couldn't make it far in Factions at around level 14, and you wouldn't make it that far through Nightfall at level 14. You still have SOOO much of the game to explore and complete. The expansion isn't meant for you. Expansions are to give people that have done everything more content, you have done very little, and still have about 90% of the original campaigns to complete.

Exoudeous · Aug 25, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellowrose

Well a sneak peak should be available to anyone after all a sneak peak is a look at what is to come and then let people decide if it's something they want. Doesn't matter if it's an added mission or an added expasion if a pre-order is paid for the key for it should be honored regardless of level. And so what if I have all the campains before even 1 is complete I can afford it so get them when they're released and play when I can. That way I have no worries about not having it when one is complete I can immediately move on but was really looking forward to this sneak peak weekend. Oh well such is life I guess.

why is it such a big deal when you have barely even seen what there is to see in what you have allready?

for the sake of argument lests say you got to check out the prevue weekend. how woudl that effect you? you wouldnt be able to use it when it comes out anyway. You are complaining abuot contennt you wont ever use anyway, you still have like 90% to beat with yout other games still.

not to mention by the time you get to the the right level to enter the game will probably have a lower price.

this isnt at all unfair to GW gamers, you just are upset that you bought something without knowing enough about it first.

Xiooua · Aug 25, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

They made it perfectly clear from the beginning that the game is meant for players whom are already level 20, that's the level the content is made for, so why would it be any different for the preview weekend? The preview weekend takes you into places where you'll need to be level 20 to do anything. You wouldn't get past the first explorable area at level 14.

It's not difficult getting to level 20, at all. In fact, you'd be that much closer to level 20 if you had spent your time in-game instead of complaining about something as silly as "my level 14 character can't access level 20 content."

LumpOfCole · Aug 25, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

If you bought all 3 campaigns, that means you bought Factions. Assuming you're at least in Lion's Arch, it should take about a week even for a slow player to get from 14-20 in Factions

arcanemacabre · Aug 25, 2007, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Yeah, if I were you, I wouldn't have purchased any more campaigns after the first one until I've been able to at the very least get halfway through. That's nice that you want to try and enjoy all the games, but it seems like you time is limiting you to barely one of them. Anet surely isn't forcing you to purchase all their campaigns/expansions.

Besides, as people have mentioned, they clearly stated it was entirely level 20 content. If you missed that, that is your fault, not theirs.

Oofus · Aug 25, 2007, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Why would you buy a total of 6 accounts and not even get a single character to 20? Somehow I find that remarkably difficult to believe. It makes no sense. You say you bought them for each of your computers, yet a single cd can be loaded on to any number of computers, once installed the cd is not needed to play the game. So your 1st point is rather silly and unbelievable. As to your 2nd point of not having a single level 20 in the 2.5 years since the original beta you profess to have bought, I find that equally as unbelievable. A character can attain level 20 in a matter of a few hours of play quit frankly. Level 20 is the beginning of the game, and I fail to see how you can not, in 2.5 years, have reached that smallest of milestones. I am in my late 30s, have a wife, a teenage daughter, a lucrative career, and am constantly retuning to university for additional education on top of the MS and BS I already have, yet I have completed all 3 chapters with little effort and even managed to amass a modest fortune along the way. So, to be honest, I find your entire "rant" difficult to swallow and even more difficult to believe.

DarthFlesh · Aug 25, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

i have all 3 campaigns too, and i am playng this weekend on eotn, , besides, if you bought pre order you should had known is for high lvl characters, and besides, man, who cares??, you are just playng...what, 1 week from release?, isnt liek if you dont play this weekend you are gonna die -.-'', besides even if you only played liek 1 hour every month, its still enought to get ya to lvl 20, in less than 10 hours with the easiness of this game thou

reverse_oreo · Aug 25, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

im with oofus here...that is just moronic... Buy one account and play that. Lvl 20 can be reached in NF in little over 3 hours.